Look, if you’re a guy who’s been looking for dating advice for a while now? You probably already know what the seduction community is, but then again, you may not.

So here’s what insiders claim is the definition of seduction community…

“It’s a group of guys from all over the world that all have a common interest: improving their lives, becoming more confident, and most of all? Learning how to pick up more women with skill. That’s where the name pick up artist comes from.

These guys have chosen to come together on forums, blogs, websites, and in real life to figure out this stuff for themselves because “normal” people around them laugh at them or simply don’t know how to help them when they say they want to learn about how to pick up women.”

The first time around? It sounds awesome. It sounds like a group of people who are trying to improve their lives in a positive and major way.

Right?

Wrong! It was awesome, once. But not anymore. The future of the seduction community looks grim. Like a dark and twisted ego trip for men that overestimate their masculinity. So, in a way, it’s just like Scarface the movie.

Let’s set the record straight first though:

– There ARE dozens of guys inside the pick up community, seduction community or whatever you want to call it, that are genuinely looking for help. Nice fellas. I’ve coached many of ‘em.

– There ARE several dating gurus that care about the lives of regular guys such as yourself. Gurus like Carlos Xuma for example.

But the only reason I’m giving a compliment or two before I tell you what the future of pick up will be… and where the seduction community is going?

Is because it confuses a whole bunch of faggy, pathetic nobody’s that always complain and say I only hate… while I have 200+ blog posts with high quality dating advice.

These faggy nobody’s spend too many hours on a forum claiming they know it all without actually taking action (hello, 70% of all pick up artists!)…

OR…

They’re faggy nobody’s that have been coaching men for many years now and suddenly think they’re God who invented anything any other dating coach will ever do (hello Ross Jeffries!)

Honestly? The seduction community is pissing me off right now. BIG TIME. I don’t like where it’s going one bit. I’ll tell you why in a second, because I first want to say:

This is me telling anyone IN the seduction community, or anyone thinking about joining it, that the community will come to a grinding halt because of everything that’s happening.

This is me telling you that I’m sick of average guys being taken advantage of. Scammed out of their money. Banned from forums for having an opinion that challenges that of a dating guru. Mocked for asking questions by bullies: “experienced” pick up artists who once also asked the same stuff back when they still didn’t know jack sh*t…

And the list of BS that’s going inside the seduction community goes on and on… and on.

Hell, let’s take a closer look, shall we? Here we go…

This Is The Future Of The Seduction Community…

Are you ready to go back to the future without the lame flying car or professor? Then you’d better buckle up, caus’ here we go dude! The future of the seduction community brings…

More Wannabe Pick Up Artists That Go From Virgin To “Dating Guru”…
People like Mehow are NOT “dating gurus”.

Why?

Because no one can realistically claim to be a dating guru after trying some techniques for meeting women, succeeding, and losing their virginity because of it. Like Mehow tries to do. The proof is out there. Just Google it.

If that were true, then the seduction community would contain hundreds of millions of dating “gurus” who give dating advice as soon as they pop their cherry.

Then, an army of virgin gurus will try to sue everyone who calls them out for being fake. Why shouldn’t they? I mean, Mehow does it too! Right? Right!?

But hiring a lawyer doesn’t make being a lying motherf*cker (who scams people out of their money by claiming to be an authority) go away. Oh no, Sir.

Because you can bet your ass that I’ll be around. Watching. Waiting. Preying on the losers that scam, lie, or show their bad intentions in any other way. Bring it on punks!

And More Feminine Instructors In The Seduction Community…
There are too many pick up artists these days who become an instructor for dating guru XYZ because they themselves don’t have the balls to go at it alone. To make a name for themselves all on their own. Hence: feminine instructors.

First off, I wonder how the ever growing number of seduction community dudes who become instructors because they’re too pussy to become a guru can teach you ANYTHING about confidence.

After all, aren’t they the insecure little super wussies who don’t even dare to do stuff on their own? Man, that’s worse than woman A asking woman B to join her on a bathroom visit “because she doesn’t want to go alone!”

Secondly, the conniving fucks usually end up betraying the guru they became the bitch of anyways, because after a few years? They suddenly decide they do have what it takes.

Hahaha! You make me laugh.

Guilty: Mehow, Sinn, ANYONE who used to work for Mystery, uhm… who did I forget?

Look dude, I’m not saying I’m perfect myself. I make mistakes from time to time, but you won’t see ME whoring myself to someone inside the seduction community because I lack a hairy sack + contents down there.

You won’t see ME trying to be the lapdog of the Dating Doctors because I happen to live in the Netherlands… while many people did fall for it and became their dirty little skanks (Titan Seduction, the Dutch Attraction forums, and many more).

More Dating Gurus Pushing “On Paper” Products
With dating gurus inside the seduction community who promote “on paper” products, I mean the guys who try to make you believe pheromones are good (Ross Jeffries, Thundercat, etc.).

Guys that promote wearing ridiculous looking hats and rings and what not because “chicks dig it”. Meanwhile, women who see that have serious doubts about whether a guy’s homosexual or not.

And even if “peacocking” does work, let me tell you drag queen fuckos something new: self-esteem is the esteem you have of your motherf-ing self. Not the esteem of your hat. Or ring. Or gay-ish Goth clothing. You dumb asses!

Last but not least: the guys that claim their new “Super Awesome Ultimate Guide To Mega Awesome Approaching” which contains “the awesomest awesomeness about meeting women you’ll ever discover”.

I expect to see a lot more of that in the seduction community:

Dating gurus with dollar signs in their eyes who use their filthy hands to puke out another email to their newsletter subscribers that tries to scam them into giving money for a useless piece of crap, also known as their new product that contains fancy sounding theories that have never been proven. Ever.

But The Seduction Community COULD Get Worse…

I hate to break it to you dude, but what you just learned about the pick up community is just for starters! Introducing: the main course. The future will also bring…

More Pick Up Artists With A Reality Problem
It sickens me to hear guy after guy after guy tell me he wants to be a dating guru… and then he calls me a few days/weeks later to ask me how to respond to what his new girlfriend just said.

It sickens me to hear that random loser A is trying to coach other people inside the seduction community now, because he went to The Real Man Conference or the Under 21 Convention once.

They’ll never last, simply because of the thousands of people I’ve talked to and/or coached?

I can count the number of seduction community people I’ve met that are truly persistent on two fingers: me and … and the rest of them simply don’t have the heart for it. They’ll start making stuff up when tough questions pop up.

Why?

Let’s answer that question with a metaphor. Here it is: winning 1 contest in your career doesn’t make you get the Olympic medal, champ.

Meeting 1 woman successfully, or even 20, doesn’t make you a guru. It doesn’t give you the right to tell other dudes what to do. And saying you’re a guru now doesn’t make you famous or rich or anything else. Don’t be so naïve. It only makes you a guy with an ego problem.

More Tricks Doesn’t Mean More Hits, Seduction Community
It’s incredibly amusing for me to see how insanely pathetic some wannabes in this seduction community are.

You see, they got this idea into their head that they should be different from the competition. They should be “unique”, so what do they do? Invent a gimmick and think that’s being truly different from the competition.

That’s like Pepsi trying to beat Coca Cola with a silly ass clown with a drinking problem:

Funny! But in a very wrong way. You know which seduction community sucker I’m talking about,? It’s Kezia Noble. Can’t remember who she works for, but he sucks too.

A cute face doesn’t make you a dating guru, honey. Perhaps to the guys who never had sex or to those who have spider webs hanging from their schlongs because of inactivity.

But to me? You’re just a cheap marketing trick, silly girl. You’re the BP that hires a chick with big tits to boost public opinion by revealing a nipple or two every now and then:

A worthless marketing stunt that is doomed to fail.

I mean, what’s next man? A midget (hired by Bad Boy or whatever) that attracts attention, because he’s a midget who claims to be a bad ass with women?

Or a donkey with supposedly amazing clit licking skills that is promoted by Real Social Dynamics as “THE” guru of how to please your girlfriend in bed?

Thank You Seduction Community!

No, really! Thank you seduction community. Now it makes perfect sense to me why guys who asked for your advice before and now ask me for some insights are so paranoid because:

– They’ve been ruined with theories instead of advice that works in real life
– They’ve been scammed out of their money, realized it, and never got their money back
– They’ve been bombarded with one marketing stunts after another, instead of stuff that works

That’s why I’m writing this blog post as we speak: to stand up for the average guy that got mocked or played around with by a seduction community that cares too much about money, ego’s, and terminology… and too little about actually helping men succeed.

What happened? It used to be different!

Having said that, I want to give special thanks here to sites like puahate.com and the pua hater site Ross Jeffries started.

Do you guys really have nothing better to do than to bash on each other, on dating gurus like me and others who ARE doing a good job, and on the world as a whole?

Let me guess. What follows is an accurate description of you: 16 (or 60) years old, still a virgin, and with braces, a face full of pimples, and a life that can be summed up as…

“I’m playing World of Warcraft right now! Jeejh!”

You ruin it for guys who are genuinely looking for help and who want to find the best site or guy to ask for dating advice. Get a fucking life haters.

There are some good people in the seduction community, but they’re slowly but surely replaced by virgin gurus, big titted marketing stunts, and other evils of pick up.

I say: it’s time for us good people to take out the trash! Who’s with me!?

And to all those who feel offended by this blog post: what are you going to do about it?

I dare you to comment or blog about me. No wait! Aforementioned action requires balls, which you do not have.

To all the rest: I hope this blog post opened your eyes about what’s really going on inside the seduction community. And you can bet your ass that I’m far from done when it comes to exposing the deception AND the “Decepticons” (the liars). I’m just getting started…

To More Dating Success,

Carlos Xuma
Win With Women

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YES, sometimes pua routines are awesome. But quite often, they SUCK.

When it comes to pua routines and whether they work or not in the dating game, I must separate the newbie’s from the guys who’ve been around the block a couple times.

It doesn’t matter which category you fall into right now though, because I promise you:

By the time you’re done reading this post about pua routines?

You’ll know what to do to make meeting women incredibly easy for yourself.

So, let’s get to it!

Pua Routines Meet Newbie’s: Match Made In Heaven Or Not?

If you know me a little longer than this one blog post, it would be easy for you to think that I dislike pua routines because I dislike the pick up artist lingo, methods, and “community”.

But thinking I claim pua routines always suck is thinking in black and white in a world filled with multiple shades of grey, because here’s the BIG SECRET behind routines…

The people I got my game from? They’re “naturals”: people who are naturally good at seducing the opposite sex. They’re the ones who attract women without coming across as forced or fake.

But here’s the thing…

The reason why a “natural” became so damn good at attracting women, is because he transformed his unique situation into a tool that gets him women. He transformed his life into one big pua routine without realizing it.

Examples of “naturally grown” pick up artists:

– The cameraman who makes models fall in love with the camera and then, by helping them out and inspiring them, makes the models fall in love with him

– The fisherman who gives tours of the beautiful bay… and whose boat gets stuck in the middle of the water (I actually know a fisherman that does this)

As you can see, there is a reason why pua routines exist. And in my opinion, they can and will help you out in the short term when you’re a newbie.

Because let’s face it:

If you decided to get the women & dating part of your life handled only recently, then you probably have no freaking clue about how women will respond, and why, when you start talking.

And isn’t that frustrating?

Isn’t that exactly why you decided to get this part of your life handled: to get rid of the insecurities and fears because you have no idea if YOU are wrong or if what you’re doing is wrong?

And this is where pua routines will help you out if you’re a newbie.

Why?

The answer as to why pua routines work well for newbie’s is simple, really:

1) Because a pua routine involves using the same words or techniques over and over, you get all kinds of responses from the women you use it on. After a while though, you’ll start noticing patterns. Similar responses.

2) Once you know the most common responses, you can come up with ways to use those responses to create even more attraction. And that means next time you’re out meeting women? You’ll feel more confident and fearless too, because you know exactly what to expect.

3) Once you start using some successful pua routines, then YES, you can “get the girl”.

And as a guy who just started to improve his dating success, you’ll often get yourself into situations where you don’t know what the hell to say.

That’s where pua routines will prove to be useful to you:

They’re something you can fall back on in worst-case scenarios where an awkward silence almost seems certain to happen… while you do NOT want to lose the girl you’re talking to.

And you have to start somewhere if you want to meet more women, right?

So, you can make meeting women much easier for yourself with routines of pick up artists.

But WAIT! There’s more…

If you feel completely alienated by me now because it almost seems like I’m promoting pick up artists and their pua routines, then you’re gonna LOVE this next part…

There are many circumstances where you’ll fall flat on your face when you use a routine. The longer you try and meet women, the more likely it is that it will happen.

And that’s why I thought I’d write something about pua routines for all “dating pro’s” out there:

Pua Routines Meet The Pro’s: It’s Time To Get Serious…

Once you start getting more and more phone numbers…

And once you start getting a date here and a date there like your middle name is “pick up artist”?

Then you’ll notice how the dating game quickly gets FUCKING BORING if you’re constantly using the same old same pua routines.

Hell, you’ll start feeling like a robot after a while. And that’s where you need to drop the act.

That’s what pick up artists have never understood and probably won’t ever understand:

Using pua routines so you know exactly what to expect from women makes you feel more confident, sure, but it’s temporary. Watch what happens when you get a response you’re NOT familiar with…

Or watch what happens when you stop the pua routines. Feeling insecure again, are you?

A pua routine is merely a crutch for your confidence. It’s not a substitute for it.

And if you truly want to have MASSIVE and LONG TERM success with women? You need to build your confidence from the ground up and pua routines won’t help you do that.

Using pua routines means assuming that all women are alike. They are, but only to a certain extent. For example, being dominant may not work on this chick over here while it works very well on that chick over there.

Why?

Well, the first one may be the youngest child at home and thus feels suppressed, wants to be free, and dominance is the opposite of what she wants.

And the second chick may be the oldest at home and thus the most dominant child, so she needs a taste of her own medicine and responds well to it.

Do you realize what this means?

Pua Routines Could Handicap Your Dating Success!

It means using pua routines is handicapping yourself by only allowing yourself to have success with the kind of girl that responds well to YOUR specific routine.

I’m willing to bet you that, because all women are not made equal, you’ll have a 50% success rate at best when you approach all the girls in a random club and see what’s up.

Meanwhile, guys like me adapt to the situation we’re in, which usually ends in us getting the girl 90% of the time. It’s because we figure out what unsatisfied need a girl has and then cater to that need.

You should start doing the same once you’re ready to get rid of your training wheels:

Your pua routines.

The longer you actively take part in the dating game, the more you realize that it’s not about you. It never was. It’s all about the woman and the psychological needs she has that are still unfulfilled.

The result: even women who have a boyfriend, or who are married, can be attracted to you if they have an unsatisfied psychological need. Know the need… and getting dates is easy.

That’s something pua routines can never teach you, but this blog can! My thanks go out to Cal for giving me the idea to write this blog post.

To More Dating Success,

Carlos Xuma
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So, what the hell exactly happened with the top 10 pick up artists?

Several of my fans and customers have sent me emails these past couple of weeks to ask me what I think about Joseph Matthews and his top 10 pick up artists. And I never mind giving my opinion, but first…

If you don’t know what a pick up artist is, here’s what’s up: a pick up artist is a guy who wants to get better at approaching women, creating attraction, and dating.

There are lots of single men that want to achieve the same goals, but the big difference is that pick up artists usually talk about it on a daily basis on many different sites, forums, and blogs using nicknames like Thundercat or AFC Adam. Plus, for many pick up artists? Achieving dating success has become an obsession, an addiction.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m friends with a lot of pick up artists, including some of the top 10 pick up artist, so I don’t disagree with what these guys are trying to do: improving their own lives and those of other men with dating tips and techniques.

But I DO disagree with what pick up artist Joseph Matthews (also known as Thundercat) has been doing… and IS STILL DOING.

Every year Joseph creates a top 10 pick up artists of the year on his own. It is supposed to be a top 10 of who gives the best dating advice, who has done the most for his fans and customers, and who made the biggest difference. But it’s not.

Here’s why…

The Facts About The Top 10 Pick Up Artists

1) The top 10 pick up artists is NOT based on facts
These days there are dozens of dating coaches and probably even more pick up artists who give men dating advice. Joseph Matthews then goes and says “these are the best dating coaches on the planet this year” once a year.

The question I ask is: who the hell is Joseph Matthews to say who and what every man getting dating advice liked the most? There are millions of single men out there looking for dating advice for men and I don’t think anyone gave you the right to say what’s best for them.

In my opinion, if the top 10 pick up artists (which really should be the top 10 dating coaches) is NOT based on votes and who got the most votes? It’s a lie and it’s not fair. Men looking for something as personal as dating advice deserve to know who everyone on the damn planet thinks is the best guy to go to, NOT who YOU think is the best guy.

You do not represent millions of people, no one made you president of dating advice.

2) Don’t know you? Then you’re not in the top 10 pick up artists
I got more proof for the top 10 not being the truth AT ALL. Funny thing is that Joseph himself gives me the evidence here. You see, several of Joseph Matthews (also known as Thundercat) top 10’s are based on who he has met.

I think it’s in the top 10 of 2009 or 2010 where he literally says: “usually I don’t include people in the top 10 pick up artists who I haven’t met personally”. Huge mistake buddy.

You live in the US, so just because any dating coach from Europe, Africa, South America, Asia, Australia or anywhere else on the planet doesn’t have the time or the money to visit YOU… they’re not in the top 10? Give guys that are not from America a chance will you?

And the guys you haven’t met that you DO include in your top 10 pick up artists you’ve heard about?

No one can EVER convince me that you can decide who’s the best dating coach by meeting them in person. Example: just because coach XYZ is great to talk to and good at bragging about his products, doesn’t make him a great coach.

Just because you’ve heard rumors about dating coach ABC being an excellent dating coach because 1, or 5, or 10 people say so… doesn’t make him one of the best on the planet. Hell, who says those rumors are true dude?

It makes me sad to see and hear that a lot of single men (and pick up artists) looking for advice check out your top 10 pick up artists and then act on it. They don’t know it’s not democratic and mostly based on who’s from the US and who you’ve met… while it SHOULD BE based on quality of the dating advice.

The only way to determine who’s really the best dating coach is by letting people vote OR by reviewing all the products of all the dating coaches of that year and then judge who has the best quality based on facts, not who you like more.

And somehow? I don’t see mister Thundercat changing the way he makes his little top 10 pick up artists, so it will stay just one big, fat lie.

Lame!

The Rumors Surrounding The Top 10 Pick Up Artists

3) Buying your way into the top 10
Anthony Johnson had something interesting to say recently. He’s the founder of the insanely popular Under 21 Convention that hundreds of guys go to for the latest and greatest dating advice and dating coaches. What did he say?

On the blog of the 21 Convention he said he had proof that some people paid Joseph so they could get in his top 10 of pick up artists. They simply gave him a nice pile of money to be named one of the best by him. It’s a rumor, but one coming from a respected insider and one that’s also confirmed by several dating coaches…

Paying to be called the best is called bribery and it’s illegal in most countries on the planet, but still Joseph Matthews continues to make his top 10 pick up artists of who he thinks are the best dating coaches.

If this rumor is really true, then I would hate Joseph Matthews guts because he lies to people who need (dating) help. And anyone that wants to take advantage of people who are weaker? Will have to deal with you because I don’t accept that.

The Conclusion About The Top 10 Pick Up Artists…

– The top 10 is based on an opinion of a guy with a questionable reputation and who doesn’t represent all single men

– Dating coaches that are NOT from the US don’t appear to have a fair chance

– Coaches that can’t meet the guy in person don’t appear to have a fair chance to get in as well

– The top 10 pick up artists appears to be based on who pays mister Thundercat enough money to get in

The so-called top 10 of pick up artists and/or dating coaches is a total lie you shouldn’t believe in.

It’s a conspiracy invented by a loser who’s not as important as he thinks he is but who keeps the conspiracy going to come across like he’s important.

The only problem is that people actually listen to this guy and believe the lie, but I hope they stop doing that from now on. If you don’t, if all single men don’t, you may decide to get advice from a guy that can’t help you. It means wasting your time AND money without any results that made it worth it.

Hell, I hope all dating coaches that make it to the top 10 pick up artists boycot Joseph’s ass because their fans and customers deserve more. Meet the criminal Matthews:

People deserve to get the best dating advice possible and for that we need to start voting on who’s best… and stop listening to a dude who thinks he’s a “dating dictator” that can say who’s wrong and who’s right.

Seriously, if we as dating coaches can’t give men dating success? We’re out of a job, so we better start caring about our fans and customers. They deserve to get the best advice possible, even if WE can’t give it to them.

We’re talking about people’s emotions here, their personal lives. And that means we as dating coaches have a responsibility. The responsibility to SERVE our customers and fans, to work in their best interests instead of taking advantage of them.

But when I look at the facts and the rumors about the top 10 pick up artists? Joseph Matthews (also known as Thundercat) and his conspiracy completely ignore what’s best for single men. The only thing he does is taking advantage of his position of authority to mislead men all over the world and (possibly) earn money.

I know he tries to bash and attack any guy that criticizes him (apparently he can’t handle feedback), so if you’re reading this? You’re welcome to do whatever you think is best, I don’t care, but I suggest you change the way you make your top 10 pick up artists.

Nothing can change my mind about it.

1) What do you think about the way Joseph Matthews makes his top 10 pick up artists and/or dating coaches?
2) How would you want to make a top 10 of the best dating coaches of the planet?
3) Who do YOU think are the top pick up artists on the planet?

This coffee addict is going to enjoy a fresh cup of coffee now and then I’ll just sit here with a big smile. Why? Because after my blog about what makes a great dating coach? I’ve managed to defend what’s best for single men looking for dating advice yet another time!

The cat’s finally out the bag. The top 10 pick up artists is one big fat lie invented by a greedy scam artist. Don’t believe the hype!

To More Dating Success,

Carlos Xuma
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I live with my parents in an average-sized house in a boring little neighborhood. But I have everything I could wish for at home: a Xbox to play videogames on until my mother screams at me “Turn that damn thing off and come eat already Carlos!” There’s also a TV so I can enjoy my greatest addiction: watching movies. Don’t you just love movies?

Meanwhile, I have a temporary job as a newspaper boy. I hate almost being bitten by dogs every day, but hey, it allows me to afford to go clubbing and buy some nice clothes… which is kind of awesome. Oeh! I almost forgot: I even have a girlfriend I got after much effort.

I want to keep my girlfriend interested in me, but I find myself struggling to get her attention. I send her sweet text messages like “Hey baby, I miss you and want to see you soon! Text me back! Xx me” but she often doesn’t reply at all. That’s when you hear me thinking: “I hate that bitch! What does a man have to do to get some love man? Jeez!”

Have you ever wanted to get a woman’s love and attention, but you didn’t get it? Then you know how I feel right now… it sucks balls. It really sucks.

I find it hard to feel happy when I’m with her. I can’t stop thinking “I deserve more attention than she’s giving me, but I like her too much to leave her. What should I do? Stay with her or leave her? I just don’t know!” And I only feel more confused as time goes by…

Then six months later all hell breaks loose: my parents get divorced. I definitely did NOT see that one coming! At the same time I learn my girlfriend is a gold digger. How I learned?

She asked me for money a lot, but I didn’t mind before. I didn’t mind until she calls me to say “Carlos my best friend almost tried to rape me just now! He stole my book bag and now I can’t go to school! I need $100 for books, please help me…” Meanwhile, her best friend is at the same party I am at while she calls.

She’s lying to me. Oh my God! Was she also lying to me all those other times she asked for money? Now that I think about… she does have a loooot of expensive clothes… more than any girl I know…

I can’t stop thinking: “My life sounds way too much like a Jerry Springer episode right now! That bitch! This sucks. This sucks so much. I never thought something like this could happen to me… my girlfriend is a gold digger!”

My entire world collapses on me faster than the Twin Towers on 9/11 when I also discover something else: she has been stealing money from me. She caused me to go into debt for more than $1500. It’s a debt I can’t possibly pay. I have to do something about it NOW… but how, and what?

I don’t have a choice other than working my ass off to pay off my debt. Everyone tells me:

“Find her and let her pay all of it. She did it! She has to pay!” and I agree, but I can’t find here anywhere. She doesn’t live where she used to live anymore. She’s gone. It frustrates me so much that I feel like destroying every single object in my room with a damn hammer!

Because now? Now I’m forced to drop out of high school thanks to my ex so I can work for 32 hours a week to pay the money I owe. And boy, was I looking forward to that. Hell no!

But I work and work and things are starting to look better. After 6 months I am finally done paying all of my debts and I feel relieved. I feel saved and free again. Free at last! But then…

Then my dad meets my soon to be stepmother and she and I don’t get along. The situation quickly escalates and I’m kicked out of the house. I now have no home, no income, and no education. My future looks like a freaking nightmare all of a sudden…

You know, I used to be arrogant whenever I saw a bum: “Look at this loser living on the streets, haha! Why don’t you get a job fool!” I’m willing to bet that you think about bums in the exact same way as I do. But now? Now I am suddenly a loser of the streets too…

And I must figure out quickly what the hell happened. I must know what caused all this mess in my life so I can fix it, but… I don’t know where to begin. But I don’t want to be a loser of the streets either. I deep down feel like the clock is ticking and with each day that goes by I’m getting more desperate. I’m getting so angry that I’m thinking about breaking into a home just so I will have a freaking home! How could this have happened to me?

Then I realize that my inability to communicate with women and my lack of self-respect around women is the cause of much of my problems. I consider learning how to meet and date women as the solution to my problems, but I feel overwhelmed.

“Should I change my entire life for it?” is the question that keeps running through my mind.

“And where do I start and where do I stop with changing everything I do? I just don’t know…” is the question I ask myself right after that…

Have you ever gotten an assignment or a task that seemed so freaking BIG or difficult, that you just didn’t know what to do with it? That you thought about giving up before you even began working on the task? Then you know how I feel!

Anyways, I decide to wait it out and don’t do anything about my issues. I think to myself: “I first need to get a roof over my head, but I need to apologize to my parents while I didn’t do anything wrong!” It haunts me at night: I don’t want to bite the dust just to have a home again… a roof over my head again…

But after many arguments with my parents and damaging my confidence immensely, I have no choice. It’s either apologizing or living on the street. I apologize and with much effort and frustration I manage to finally finish high school. I still hate school because of it. I think of it as the monster that swallowed my confidence whole and then spit me out with a high school diploma.

With a high school diploma in my pocket I hope to have a better life now, but my problems with women haunt me. Every woman I meet I can’t keep and it’s starting to have some serious emotional effects.

I’m starting to think “Maybe there’s not something wrong with what I say or do, maybe it’s me. Maybe there’s something wrong with ME that makes women dislike me…”

I know it’s time to do something about this before I get even more insecure. Meanwhile, I want to get my college diploma so I can get a GOOD job and have a normal life like everyone else. But there’s only one problem:

I need more time than I expected to improve myself and to learn how to understand women. College is getting in the way of that: the only college that’s right for me is located 1.5 hours away from me, so I’m traveling for 3 hours per day for my college education…

And almost every day I’m getting piles and piles of homework to be made. This all means I can hardly go out to meet women, maybe one night a week at best. I’m improving very slowly with women and it’s discouraging me to continue. It almost makes me want to give up and I find myself saying:

“Carlos, this is bullsh*t! You know you can’t have both a college diploma and women. It’s freaking impossible to make ANY progress in the dating game because of all those travels to school and the piles of homework… unless you start sleeping only 2 hours a night or something. That’s not healthy. It can’t be done. It’s college OR women. Not both.”

So I realize I’m forced to make a choice: I either get my college diploma and suffer more problems with women… OR… I quit college to solve my problems once and for all.

I decide to take a big risk and I quit college. I feel excited to start changing my life and I’m very motivated to do it! I can’t wait to get started with the beginning of the rest of my life, but I don’t know anything about how to improve my life or how to meet and date women.

After several weeks I start to have serious doubts about if I will pull this off or not. Why? Because there are no results I can use to prove myself I’m making progress! And it’s so damn stressful, because I keep thinking:

“Now I HAVE TO succeed enough with women to build a life around it since I can’t build a life around a college education anymore. So this isn’t a joke anymore, this is for real. This is your life now dude.”

Have you ever experienced a situation where you made a mistake, you see the consequences of your mistake, but you can’t go back to fix it anymore? It’s the worst feeling in the world. It’s knowing you’re beyond the point of no return and you can’t do anything about it.

And with all this pressure on my shoulders I don’t know where to start with it all… and it makes me feel like having a mental breakdown. I just want to build a freaking time machine, travel to the future and see how I did it all, but I’m no Einstein. Damn it! I’m forced to wait to find out whether I made the right decision or not…

Because I don’t know what to do myself, I figure that maybe other people do know… and knowledge is power is what they always say, right? So I go to a book store filled with knowledge. There I buy my first self help book: Think & Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. I rush home with a big smile on my face as fast I can so I can start reading it. This is awesome! Now I can really improve my life dude.

I’m really motivated to change things in my life, but I read it and just know: “This sounds like some out of this world stuff. All this talk about acquiring riches, why failure carries the seed of success in it, and more. Yes I’m learning about myself, but there is NOTHING about women in here. Damn it! Is there no one then that can help me get better with women? Please tell me there is someone out there… I must know! I have to know! I quit college for this sh*t!”

I start going to one book store after the other in a desperate attempt to get advice about meeting and dating women but I can’t find anything worthwhile. I decide to just put myself out there in the world. I will try to meet women. All I can do is hope for the best, right? Most things don’t work though and it’s causing small objects in my room to be destroyed one by one. Me and my frustration give all of them flying lessons!

I keep trying and trying but my results aren’t matching my efforts. It’s getting to the point where ANY man would give up, even action heroes like Rambo and the Terminator who don’t get shot while dozens of enemies are shooting at them!

Little did I know that my luck was about to change…

Here I was: failing to meet women time after time. And then one day when I really want to give it all up I meet and befriend Patrick. He’s a natural with women. I always see him leaving the club with groups of women. I hear his stories about the threesomes he has had. I’m so jealous of the lucky bastard! I want his success with women. I want his exciting lifestyle. I want to steal his freaking brain and put it in my head so I can have what he has!

I start to imitate everything he says and does. I’m getting plenty of phone numbers almost every night and I have never felt so confident as I do now. I feel like I’m on top of the world! I feel like Scarface standing in front of his gigantic “The World Is Yours” art. The world is mine!

I can now finally talk to women longer than a few minutes in a way that gets THEM excited. But I quickly discover there’s something wrong: I almost never end up going on a date. What the hell? How can this be!? I’m having more success with women, but I have to work too damned hard for it. I thought I had all the answers, but I still don’t have sh*t!

I realize something is missing. I know I’m missing a piece of the puzzle, but I don’t know which one. It seems my lucky streak is over… OR… maybe. Maybe there’s a big secret about women that I don’t know about yet? I’m determined to find out… I have to find out…

So I meet and befriend many more men and women who are naturals at seducing the opposite sex. I complain to them about my lack of success with women, but when I look around? I can’t help but feel guilty about my complaints, because other guys? Man, other dudes SUCK at meeting women! I’m thankful that I have at least partly figured out how attraction works and that I can get phone numbers from women almost every night. My results are much better than the majority of single guys get.

I begin to realize that even though I went on this journey to solve my own challenges with women, dating, and myself, that there are lots of other men out there who are struggling more than me. They’re struggling not in a contest way, but struggling in a way like Leonardo Di Caprio wants to survive too in Titanic… but he can’t. It’s an insanely tough battle for most.

I start thinking more and more about this entire group of under-performers in the dating game that I am somehow a part of. Better known as nice guys. I realize that if I can figure this out for myself I might be able to help thousands, tens of thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of other nice guys who always seem to finish last with women. It needs to stop.

Nice guys don’t want to finish last, they don’t NEED to finish last with women. They’re going through the same things as I am. So in a way, it’s my duty to help them. Because I’m one of them.

But I’m not there yet: I have to find a way to see the big picture, but I’m confused about what’s the cause and what’s the effect of my lack of results with women. Where does the dating game start and where does it end? How deep into psychology do I need to go just to understand women? Will I even find the answers I seek when I do that? I don’t know. I don’t know again damn it! I’m once again forced to wait and see what happens to me as time goes by…

And out of nowhere I finally stumble on the answer! It’s like a miracle happens to me. It’s like I see the beautiful, bright light at the end of the tunnel. And it all comes from a conversation with my friend Sherwin.

In it, he mentions how women have different psychological needs. I realize that if you cater to these needs, you will win women’s hearts, minds, souls, and bodies. It’s my biggest realization ever… and I feel like celebrating with $500 champagne, a limousine that takes me to the club and other over-the-top craziness. Why?

Because now I finally realize why I am working so hard. I realize why I am meeting more women than ever but only dating a few of them. It’s because while I am over-thinking what to say and what to do, I completely forget about a woman’s perspective on things. And so is every other nice guy I’ve met. How could I NOT see this? It was right in front of me this whole time! I’m surprised by my own stupidity.

I feel like a total dumb blonde who can’t open a door and has to stay at work allll night because she doesn’t know you need to push a button first before the door can be opened. Really stupid.

Instead of focusing on learning what women truly want and looking at things from their perspective? I was pre-occupied with trying to come up with witty things to say to get a date.

I make myself a promise to never over-think anything ever again. I’m a f*cking brunette, not a dumb blonde who’s too dumb to figure things out! I promise to completely focus on a woman’s perspective: to discover women’s psychological needs and to cater to them.

Starting the next day I am going to start focusing on learning everything there is to know about female psychology and helping any other nice guy I meet to learn as well. I promise myself that I will stop being an egoist who over-thinks what he needs to say instead of thinking of what the women I’m talking to need…

But if I really want to change, it means deleting what I have been programmed with all my life. It feels like trying to tell a Christian that there is no God and then trying to prove it. It’s like trying to let people see for themselves that there are other dimensions they can’t see, while they can’t see them!

This means installing new beliefs about the world, women, and myself on my mental hard drive. That’s a lot of work, and the toughest challenge so far… and I don’t know if I can pull it off.

These weeks are the toughest ones of my life: every single day I need to challenge my way of thinking. It’s like I have to start over with everything I do almost every day just to have some minor results with women. It almost feels like that one Greek tragedy where the guy has to push a BIG, BIG rock up a hill in hell all day, but at the end of the day the devil lets the rock roll back all the way down and he needs to start pushing the rock back up all over again. That’s how it feels. But lucky for me, the end for me looks different:

I live up to the promise I made to myself and after weeks of struggling I go on one date after the other… after the other… after the other. Getting a date itself requires less and less effort.

Over the next few months my schedule continues to fill up with dates and I learn so much about female psychology thanks to my experiences. I get myself as much books about psychology as I can until I feel like an almost scary combination of Sigmund Freud and Dr. Phil: I feel like a psychological powerhouse! Now I’m finally someone who can cater to almost all of women’s psychological needs.

Friends I’ve made see my success and start asking for help. They don’t have any knowledge of female psychology or only know the stereotypes about women, so they need much support. I feel bad for the poor suckers, because they were raised just like me: not knowing a crap about how attraction works… OR how women REALLY work. I give them all the advice and guidance I can, and they have success as well.

The word gets out about my skills and more nice guys are asking for my help. It feels like they suddenly invaded my country or something, because they really are everywhere: at work, in clubs, online, at a friends’ birthday, and the list goes on and on… and on. I decide I’ll try to help more people, but I hesitate to get started with helping more like-minded men.

Why?

Because I’m thinking: “Here I am helping all these guys that are friends or friends of friends. I see them face-to-face and know them personally to a certain extent. But how in the hell am I supposed to help men I don’t personally know? I can’t see what’s bothering them or what their biggest mistakes are, so what makes me the man that can help? I’m not, or am I?”

I give it a shot and hope I can truly help someone I don’t know and can’t see. And the first “unknown” student ever? The first student who I’ve never met face-to-face? He sleeps with a girl thanks to my tips while he ruined his chances with her only a week before that! I now see the proof for my knowledge and skills and it feels awesome. It feels really great now I see how well my knowledge can help other men. There’s nothing like it. It’s complete satisfaction, like completing a Xbox360 videogame that took you weeks to play through or something.

Three months later many more students are in a relationship with my help. They have friends with benefits with my help… OR… they’re dating multiple women a week. I want to help even more, guys but I hardly have time to meet and date women myself anymore.

It makes me fall back into negative habits from the past. Something needs to change because I feel like I’m quickly losing control over my life. I feel like my life is being driven around by others, while I used to be in the drivers’ seat. This lack of control is causing me to lose my confidence… but what can I do about it?

I think to myself: “Weren’t you the one who chose this life? Well, now you’ll have to accept the consequences of your decision! Suck it up and be a man!”

But things get worse: by now dozens of guys contact me for tips in one way or another and I’ve neglected my own love life and social life because of it. Things get crazy as some guys start stalking me for advice by calling me 10 times or more a day.

I’m trying hard to come up with ways to get my life back again and I think about starting a blog with tips so I can help more guys without ruin my own life.

Then a student asks me if I´ve ever heard of Neil Strauss’s book The Game and I Google around a bit. Boy… am I surprised as I search the internet! My eyes feel like they’re popping out of my head, because I can’t believe what I am seeing online. I discover that there are thousands of other guys looking to improve their lives by meeting and dating women: pick up artists.

Plus, there are many experienced pick up artists teaching the newer ones about the dating game. I’m proud to see that I’m not the only man who fights to improve the lives of men worldwide, but… my positive state of mind quickly disappears when I take a closer look…

What these teaching pick up artists are doing looks and sounds so awkward to me. They don’t talk about good-looking women but about “HBs”. They don’t talk about the fear of rejection but about “AA”. They give themselves names like PUA Valor or Nightshift or other weird stuff instead of just using their real name. And I can’t help but think:

“Instead of naming things as they are, they make up new names or give every concept of the dating game letters so everything becomes less personal. They’re also afraid to use their real names. And this can only mean one thing: they are ashamed of who they are, ashamed of what they are doing, and they hide behind false names and letters because they’re insecure and don’t dare to name things as they are! What the hell? This isn’t improving men’s lives, but teaching them to hide from the true nature of things! This is teaching men to be ashamed of wanting to improve their lives with weird little nicknames for everything!”

And I see so many of these pick up artists spending hours every day on a forum talking to each other. Meanwhile, they could have gone out to practice meeting women in real life!

I´m not sure what to do: there´s no doubt I´d work less and date more by starting a blog. No doubt I’ll possibly earn an income with the thing I do best.

But then I would have to compete with all these influential pick up artists, while I don’t like OR have their weird nicknames, language, or habit of being online more than being outside to meet women. I know that if I would start a blog, that these men would criticize me and my unconventional ways and that I would have to battle them in one way or another.

But if I wouldn´t start a blog however, no one would deliver what all those struggling nice guys really need: a way to stop over-thinking things and a way to start understanding women better so they can “keep the girl” they meet.

I think to myself: “What the hell should I do? What would be best for me and what would be best for my fans and customers? Can I even make a significant difference that makes quitting college worth it? But I need to do something: men are being taught to be ashamed of wanting to improve their lives, to be ashamed of naming things as they are, and more… and it has to stop. But will I be the one that can stop it?”

In June 2008 I decide to go for it: I do it! I start the Win With Women blog as a simple Windows Live Space Blog. Real basic stuff. Looking at how these teaching pick up artists teach men all the wrong things about themselves and about women, I make a promise…

I promise myself to be different from the pick up artists by not hiding behind pick up artist language, routines and methods that treat all women as equals while every woman has different psychological needs. It was only later that I found out how big the lies of the teaching pick up artists were… that their weird language, routines, and methods were only the beginning…

Anyways, when I open the doors to my blog? Hundreds of visitors start dropping by from day one! I am speechless. I certainly wasn´t expecting that level of demand! Woohoo! This is awesome! But now I have to quickly create a website that can handle more visitors and create a system that can deliver more tips to more guys, because my little blog is wayyyy too small to handle this many people. I also need to put a team together to keep everything up and running.

But it´s important to me that Win With Women, my new company, does what I promised myself to do: give men social success and dating success without hiding behind weird pick up artist language or feeding them other pick up artist lies. I hate their lies!

And it’s important to me to KILL the idea that all women are created equal by showing men why all women are different. I’ll show them catering to women´s psychological needs is more effective and more fulfilling than what pick up artists are doing.

Before bringing anyone on board the Win With Women team though, they must know and fully commit to what we want to achieve. It helps us help men better. But where do you find someone who looks at the dating game in a different way than pick up artists do? And if such a guy exist, does he still know enough about women to give good advice men can take action with? We discover it’s very difficult to find such a guy…

We look and look for help and ask anyone offering help if they can recognize themselves in the objectives of Win With Women. Most don’t, because they’re totally brainwashed by either pick up artists or how they were raised. I define the objectives of Win With Women as follows:

To guide, advise, and help nice guys everywhere to do less, date more, while achieving dating success and social success beyond their wildest imagination.

Win With Women delivers nice guys everywhere freedom in their love lives and social lives via our extensive ebooks, programs, coaching packages, and community.

Our big idea behind all of our advice: meeting and dating women isn´t supposed to be a long-term struggle where complicated pick up artist routines, language, and methods are needed just to get a freaking date.

This is where we think in a different way than everyone else giving dating advice. The dating game is supposed to be a ticket to freedom in your love life and social life and a ticket to an enjoyable lifestyle in general. But right now? It’s a ticket to weird ass pick up artist language, routines, and lies that help “gurus” sell more of their garbage advice to you.

Frustration and many failures… most nice guys enter the dating game without the critical knowledge they need to succeed. They quickly become frustrated. They become overwhelmed and find themselves working their ass off just to get a date. And still the majority end up being rejected by women… OR… they’re left behind because women lose interest in them.

Win With Women’s goal is to improve the lives of 90% of the male population (the nice guys) that are being rejected by women. We want to help the nice guys that are losing women to bad boys or a lack of interest, because it just isn’t right. We want to help the nice guys who are getting confused because of weird pick up artist language, methods, and routines. That’s who we want to help. We want to bring clarity, deep psychology, and a no-nonsense attitude to the dating game. But we realize something important as well…

We strive to have a long lasting positive impact on society by improving these nice guys’ quality of life both romantically and socially. But the moment they improve their social lives and love lives? The lives of the women they meet and the friends they make are also improved. Those people also become happier and can enjoy a better quality of life.

That’s what we realize: we have an impact on society the moment we improve a man’s social life and love life, and the more men’s lives we improve? The bigger the difference we can make in society!

We exist to enable nice guys everywhere to meet and date more women without complicated pick up artist language or routines. We exist to enable them to do less for better results… and to get to the bottom of their love lives and social lives so they can achieve as much romantic freedom and social freedom as they could possibly want. And it’s real damn easy to do less for women and get better results, because most men are making the dating game more difficult for themselves than it really is!

And you know, it’s funny how things happen sometimes. Because although we looked for people to hire for the Win With Women team? The first actual member of the team is not someone for hire: it’s Roeland, one of Carlos Xuma’s first students who developed into so much more than just a student!

And after Roeland many other great men follow. The team is finally assembled and we’ve all committed to the task of building Win With Women to achieve everything we have covered before. We conquer many other obstacles like other Dutch dating coaches trying to interrupt and mess up our events because they feel threatened by our knowledge and skills. The losers! We just keep doing what we do… and over time we generate more success stories.

We establish our beliefs and values as we fight the evils of pick up artist language, routines, and methods that sleazy dating gurus implant in the minds of our market. We already know that they are teaching men to be ashamed of wanting to improve their lives…

But little did we know that the problem of sleazy dating gurus spreading lies, difficult to understand pick up artist language and routines was MANY TIMES BIGGER than we feared it was. Little did we know that there were way more of these sleazy losers than we had thought when we started…

The number of critics and haters pointing their arrows at us continues to increase beyond what we expected. It’s far beyond what we expected, but more and more success stories get created as well. Stories like that of Tom (“the one night stand man”) and Dave (“comedian in a relationship”), two guys that have achieved more success with women than they were looking for…

Take Tom who I refer to as “the one night stand man” for example. Back in May 2009 when I first met him? He was still a much too shy virgin who was real quiet, who didn’t believe in himself, who didn’t know what to say. He had a hard time approaching women.

Before he met the Win With Women team, he was heavily into the weird pick up artist language and routines. He believed meeting more women was all about improving himself instead of understanding women better. He didn’t get any results with women whatsoever before meeting us.

One week after he met us and started using our advice he lost his virginity to 2 girls and was beginning to see the light! The more we told him about women’s psychological needs? The more he recognized that more was possible with women than he could have ever imagined himself.

Four months later? Tom goes out several times a week and always has multiple one night stands each week. He is truly a changed man that can’t stop smiling. Loving life. Really confident. With our advice he started becoming one of the most popular guys in town: he almost knew everyone, and the women kept coming, and coming… and coming.

It’s quite a difference compared to the Tom from May 2009 who was a virgin and couldn’t get a date probably not even if he paid for it! But Tom is only one of many nice guys who need a lot of help with getting the women & dating part of their lives handled.

During the last 2 years we have helped many of them: we have helped at least 2,321 men approach 18,568 women, get 4,642 phone numbers, and go on 1,547 dates. If not more.

And we want to reach more guys, but isn’t it already too late? Isn’t it already too late, because there are so many sleazy enemies who are teaching the wrong things to desperate men who want to believe in ANYTHING to get better with women?

We fear that too many men have already been brainwashed by the sleazy gurus up to the point of them not understanding what the REAL problem and REAL solution is…

For example: time after time these assholes teach men the techniques for dating but don’t mention ANYTHING about relationships. But here’s a good question: is it more difficult to get a woman interested in you long enough so you can sleep with her… or is it more difficult to KEEP a woman interested in you for years and years, even if she knows everything about you?

The answer is obvious: relationships are more challenging and teach men way more about women and attraction than any date or one night stand can. Carlos Xuma often admits that he learns more about himself and women from being with his girlfriend Naisa than from anything else in his life.

That’s why we here at Win With Women only focus on long-term success: we look BEYOND a date and one night stand, because that’s where the biggest lessons about yourself, women, and dating are…

And the more men we help? The more we see that most guys first want to enjoy their new level of success and date as many women as possible, but in the end? In the end 9 out of 10 men want to find a woman that’s just right for them. That’s why long-term thinking is so important to us: there is always a next step to make with women, yourself, and your social life.

And we must win this fight against those teaching short-term success… but we’re unsure about who and what we should start fighting… that’s how many enemies there are!

We can only hope that our work will make men separate the good dating gurus from the bad. And we can only hope now that our beliefs will make enough nice guys realize that short-term techniques need to go and that long-term principles need to stay!

And we here at Win With Women? We, together, agree on the following beliefs…

– Learning how to meet and date women should make the dating game and life in general easier and more rewarding. It shouldn’t be a long-term struggle because of complicated pick up artist language, routines, and methods that only work in the short run but KILL your chances with women in the long run. That sucks big time!

– Men make meeting and dating women more difficult for themselves than it really is. Why? Because they focus way too much on themselves while they should be focusing on women’s psychological needs. We want to make dating so much easier, and it really can be easier…

– Men aren’t supposed to become clones of a dating guru no matter how good his dating advice is. Being someone or something you’re not is bad! It’s beyond bad: it’s the worst thing you can do in the dating game, because a woman will find out that you’re FAKING IT! The only rule of the dating game we believe in is that every man makes his own rules with women and meets women with his own, unique style. We simply show men the principles of how women feel, think, and act and let men themselves invent the techniques.

– We believe that every man has to make the transformation from being a product of his environment to making his environment a product of him. It’s the most certain and fastest way to social success and dating success. Success is a result of contributing to your environment: the more you have a positive impact on the lives of people in general and women in particular, the more positive results your life will give you. That’s why it’s win WITH women and not win OVER women or something similar. There is no positive result that comes from taking advantage of women.

Win With Women’s greatest enemy is the system of corrupt, sleazy dating gurus and its damaging effects on the lives of nice guys worldwide. These sleazy people deserve to be booed at their events and to have rotten tomatoes thrown at them!

Because as more and more men start asking for dating advice, this system doesn’t help them but makes things more complicated. And maybe it’s a mistake in the way WE think, but isn’t advice supposed to make things easier? And right now the dating advice men get only makes it harder for them to meet and date women. We need to stop that and stop that NOW, if it’s not already too late…

Here is a summary of the corrupt, short-term focused system that keeps nice guys everywhere paying for more and more dating advice, while they STILL fail to get the results with women they want:

1) Gurus and pick up artists use hard to understand language so instead of being able to improve a guy’s life right away? He must first learn THEIR language, which takes months to do. This is ridiculous! It’s insane! Meeting and dating women shouldn’t be like this. Someone should buy a dictionary for all these people and show them how to speak normal English that everyone can immediately understand and use.

2) Gurus and pick up artists ban guys from sites and coaching and ridicule them if they have a different opinion or don’t understand certain concepts. Challenging the beliefs these gurus have is not done and that’s bad. That’s not a good or helpful environment to learn in. Plus, never challenging your old beliefs means never making progress. Since we are always about long-term success? We challenge as much beliefs as possible whenever we can!

3) Gurus and pick up artists lie to men by making up false theories for meeting women that haven’t even been proven and the guys, not they themselves, suffer the consequences. Consequences like being rejected, failing to meet women, and getting more insecure with each day that goes by. Guys everywhere should NOT accept this from anyone, let alone the people who claim they know more than they do. It’s time to stop the theories and to start the proven ways to get dates… we have had enough of gurus making up stories and lies.

4) Gurus and pick up artists teach guys that they need complicated routines, methods, and techniques just to “get the girl” instead of showing men how to make the dating game less difficult for themselves. It will take men months to understand what these sleazy gurus mean if they ever will, which are months they could have spent on meeting women instead. We want to stop men wasting their time. It’s time wasted on making things difficult instead of making it easy for once!

5) Gurus and pick up artists teach guys that it’s good to be their clone so they will buy more of their products each time the gurus offer more ways to imitate them. They also make men believe that short-term success with women is better than long-term success. The result: women sooner or later realize that the students are trying to be someone they’re not. This is setting guys up to fail in the long run so they will buy more of the gurus’ products because the guys think they need more advice to succeed. Meanwhile, the advice is the problem, and not the guys getting the advice.

And this is only the beginning of how nice guys worldwide are being set up to fail by these sleazy dating gurus and pick up artists who keep this corrupt system alive so they can make more money. They’re lucky, because if we were running the banks of the world? We would block their accounts and give the money back to the poor guys they took it from that are STILL struggling with themselves and with women.

That’s right: we fight these sleazy dating gurus and pick up artists so they stop taking advantage of nice guys worldwide! We want to stop their short-term thinking forever…

Millions of men mindlessly follow these sleazy gurus and pick up artists, without knowing what’s wrong and without realizing they’re been tricked into giving their money away. This is a BIG problem. We want to end this madness and solve this problem.

And we realize that the only way to solve it and to reach all these guys and make them see what’s going on is by communicating our values as much as possible… why? You will find out in a second…

We define our values to fight the sleazy gurus and pick up (scam) artists as:

– Responsibility: What we teach is one of the most important and impactful areas of life and has massive effects not only on our fans and customers but on everyone who surrounds them (family, friends, women, etc.) This makes it our MISSION to guide men in their social lives and love lives for as long as we can so they can have long-term success in life that every person they know benefits from.

– Passion: We are very passionate about self help, psychology, genetics and everything else that helps nice guys to achieve long-term social success and dating success. We passionately answer questions for free all the time, because to us it isn’t about the money. Why? Because we truly believe in what we are doing and in the difference that we can make in the dating game.

– Excellence: We constantly challenge ourselves to reach for perfection in everything we do: we don’t take shortcuts on quality, so if for example a coaching session needs to last 5 hours? It will last 5 hours, even if we have to stay up all night for it. We seek the best talent and promote its development. We also show every student what his or her full potential is so they can develop their best talents. We are also flexible and we admit and learn from our mistakes, instead of denying them or blaming others for stuff like sleazy dating gurus do.

– Customer focus: We respect our customers above all else and we never forget that they choose for our advice out of free will. That is why we try to treat every customer like a VIP. Our people are HOLY to us. The entire Win With Women team shares the responsibility to over-deliver value to our fans and customers, to exceed their expectations, and to always increase the loyalty and trust guys looking for dating advice place in us. We will never dishonor the trust people have in us to help them achieve long-term success in life. Hell, we truly believe in being a part of the community and we treat customers like our brothers and friends. We also regularly organize cool events for free so everyone who comes can have a good time.

– Innovation: We thrive on creativity. We are always learning about and looking for ways and ideas that can help our fans and customers more and better. We’re not kidding: we all read several books a week about psychology and whatever else we think can help men. We seek better ways to give dudes better dating advice and we want to make their social success and dating success more certain whenever we can. We anticipate trends within the world of dating advice for men and we’re not afraid to take risks to spread our message.

– Fun: We believe humor and not taking things too seriously is essential to success. We celebrate the achievements of ourselves and those of our fans and customers. We are proud of every personal victory of our students, no matter how small. We also seek to have a good time while doing good work! Why? Because why do something when you don’t feel like doing it? Hell, we believe achieving social dating and dating success should be all about having as much fun as possible with women, friends, and life itself.

– Open mentality: We strive for open and honest communication and don’t want to spread anything but the truth. Even if the truth is BEYOND brutal we will reveal it and share it even to those who don’t want to listen. That’s why we won’t even lie to make people feel better: the truth helps people grow. We see life as a never-ending and fun challenge. Plus, we’re not afraid to help anyone or answer any question, even if it means contacting our competition if they can help a fan or customer solve a problem better! We are open to all forms of feedback and take all feedback seriously, because our fans and customers also take all OUR feedback seriously. We figured it’s only right that we return the favor.

There are many secrets being kept from nice guys worldwide by sleazy dating gurus and pick up artists, probably even more secrets than we know of…

For example: a recent secret we exposed is that the top 10 of pick up artists, which is claimed to be a list of the best dating coaches for men in the world? The whole thing is fake as hell! Sleazy gurus pay money to get in this top 10, while people base who they get advice from on this same top 10. All these people who made a decision to get advice with the top 10 were lied to by the creator of this faker than UFOs top 10. We and any other guy on the planet can’t accept this.

We want to stop stuff like this from happening and expose the liars AND the lies in dating advice for men everywhere. And it kind of scares us, but we just know there are many other secrets being kept from us… maybe even bigger ones than a fake top 10…

But we’re determined to find out and to spread the truth about the dating game. Screw the lies that pick up artists and sleazy gurus are giving us nice guys! Screw short-term success in your social life and love life! It’s time for long-term success. And it’s time for the truth about dating, social circles, pick up artists, women, yourself, and human psychology.

Now that you know more about Win With Women, we would love the chance to get to know you. The path to dating success and social freedom can be a lonely, long, hard journey filled with hidden land mines everywhere you step. Let us help you. We’ll certainly get you to your dream life filled with women and a huge social circle faster, with less effort, and with more confidence.

Learn more about our range of products and our coaching services right away. We’re looking forward to helping you soon!

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